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How about a 'one-make' entry level series within say the N.i.Rally C'ship or On selected rounds of both the N.I. and Southern Forest series... say car costing circa: £5- 8,000 , using control-tyres, sealed/swappable engines ?...to attract new talent/youth ..create affordable series... either front or rear wheel drive...
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yeah, would be good, raymond mason ran the sunbeam/avenger challenge a few years back, it was quite popular, just think the cars were getting a bit old and hard to come by. a fresher or more readily avaliable car would be better, which car im not sure...
 

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yeah, would be good, raymond mason ran the sunbeam/avenger challenge a few years back, it was quite popular, just think the cars were getting a bit old and hard to come by. a fresher or more readily avaliable car would be better, which car im not sure...
Was it not Sean Foy / Jim Mc Sherry who ran that challenge ?.recall 'Mason' was one of the series sponsors..that was good..provided close competition/good laugh/good sideways spectacle...and was affordable I'm told.
What about using std. cars ( except for safety equipment/sumpguard/set of Billies.) eg: BMW 318i s or similar (rwd); Nissan Micra's(fwd), or non-turbo Impreza 2.0 Sports(4wd.)... and some backing from the sponsor of the series...winner gets 'package' to contest NI Rally series following year... or supplied grp.N car for Rally Ireland etc ????
 

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Aye the Northern Championship is a handy option for any Southern lad around the border who wants to head over have a bit of fun for a Saturday. If the NI championship got its act together and if the above series were to remain affordable i'm sure it would be a reasonable success. The Dunlop would only drive up costs with the length and the oversubscription of the events. The NI isn't necessarily bad it just needs some wee adjustments to get it right. The likes of Kirkiston or Bishopscourt are a great sort of 'introductory' event with the 'sprint' aspect to them. Then any young lad who wants a crack at the woods could have a go. It's a good idea but should be restricted to the 17-24 age bracket.
 

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Well some of you get up and organise it. Would be good to see as it would provide young people with an affordable way to go rallying.
 

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Originally posted by Middle East Driver
Originally posted by rev up
yeah, would be good, raymond mason ran the sunbeam/avenger challenge a few years back, it was quite popular, just think the cars were getting a bit old and hard to come by. a fresher or more readily avaliable car would be better, which car im not sure...
What about using std. cars ( except for safety equipment/sumpguard/set of Billies.) eg: BMW 318i s or similar (rwd); Nissan Micra's(fwd), or non-turbo Impreza 2.0 Sports(4wd.)... and some backing from the sponsor of the series...winner gets 'package' to contest NI Rally series following year... or supplied grp.N car for Rally Ireland etc ????










Definately use 318's.. Would be great crack and RWD is the business...
 

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how about bmw compacts? they are coming well back in price and there are loads about, they handle well too...
 

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Originally posted by rev up
how about bmw compacts? they are coming well back in price and there are loads about, they handle well too...
any particular size of engine. obviously the smaller the cheaper the insurance would be
 

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yeah well the 1600 compact would make a cheap car to run, it has a 8v head, i had a road going one which had almost 100k on it when i sold it, and i cut lumps out of it and it never missed a beat. all you would need is a cage, seats+harnesses, fire ext. and a set of bilsteins, there is loads of parts for these as they had the same running gear as the older 316(as im lead to believe), they are not to everyone taste but they would look better as a rally car than a 4 door saloon...
 

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yeah i suppose your right. with all the right bits it would make a great car for hammering about the stages in but i did'nt know you could get a rollcage for a compact straight of the shelf. it would definately be a cheap car to build.
 

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i think any roll cage manufacturer if given an order for 5-10 roll cages would 'set up' to make them. the316 compact hasnt got a ball of power but its the close racing that would appeal to alot of guys! and because the cars are fairly new (compared to sunbeams, avengers escorts etc)it would save alot of guys looking around for hard to get parts and panels. i think rwd is the way to go and there is a lot of people want to compete but dont have the 20k for an average mk2 let alone a competive one...
 

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Originally posted by Mike Hunt
BMW COMPACT NAW ,THEY ARE FOR RICH TARTS AND BOY RACERS
what do you think would be good? you can buy a compact for under 5 grand...

[Edited on 13-12-2005 by rev up]
 

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The best car for the job would be gpN Honda Civic EG6's, like the one Neal Coulter drives because they are going out of homologation in the south this year coming and would be handy bought, also you could build a new one for around £4000 if your just putting the bilsteins in it and not the proflex. I dont think a modified or gpA car would be the way to go because the cars wouldnt be on an even playing field then because obviously some would have more money spent than others. Also with a gpN car the running costs would be kept down as theres no such thing as a rebuild for a gp N civic, just tyres, fuel and brake pads. Also reliability is brilliant on them.


[Edited on 14-12-2005 by Dog-Box]
 

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Originally posted by Dog-Box
The best car for the job would be gpN Honda Civic EG6's, like the one Neal Coulter drives because they are going out of homologation in the south this year coming and would be handy bought, also you could build a new one for around £4000 if your just putting the bilsteins in it and not the proflex. I dont think a modified or gpA car would be the way to go because the cars wouldnt be on an even playing field then because obviously some would have more money spent than others. Also with a gpN car the running costs would be kept down as theres no such thing as a rebuild for a gp N civic, just tyres, fuel and brake pads. Also reliability is brilliant on them.


[Edited on 14-12-2005 by Dog-Box]
Totally agree with u Dog-Box. I also think there are enough of these cars in Ireland to make the series a success!!

[Edited on 14-12-2005 by QC]
 
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