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If you were a wealthy business person and could back one young driver (north or south and under 27) to try to further his career, who would it be ??

Base your answer on someone who you think has the raw talent to go further than where he is already. Someone who you feel will represent your company/brand to the highest standards and someone who you feel is ready and willing to put in 100% effort into his rallying.

Not just your best mate ;)

My answer would be Philip Morrow everytime.

[Edited on 14-12-2005 by CiaraC]
 

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I've watched Peter Wilson with great interest over the past two years and he has shown himself to be well capable of moving up the ladder (he has acclimatised to the Evo very well). I really hope that he doesn't go the way of Aidan Bourke and fall by the wayside.
 

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If he is quick in an Evo and wants to further his career, he would ideally need to get himself into the Evo Cup as a stepping stone to the Evo Challenge. The pace of the top boys in the Evo Challenge over the past number of years is mindblowing.

I know money is an issue for him and that is a big big shame.
 

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Originally posted by dcr22B
I've watched Peter Wilson with great interest over the past two years and he has shown himself to be well capable of moving up the ladder (he has acclimatised to the Evo very well). I really hope that he doesn't go the way of Aidan Bourke and fall by the wayside.
Its easy to fall by the wayside when you have no budget !!!
What bourke did in 03 was nothing short of a miracle on a shoestring. Remember that Fannin had to resort to buying a Subaru to beat him in group n and also the most recent winner of the Coleman award was destroyed by him in Carlow.
 

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its a good question. no doubt there r plenty people out there rallying on a shoestring + getting good results BUT who would show ur company name off on the biggest stage here r in england? there's a few i would pick- in the northern ireland- morrow stands out but he's in that msa scheme + in my view will get his chance-his own mototr club r even raising money 4 him at there dinner dance, a great idea ( maybe clubs down south should do the same 4 drivers they think were given a raw deal in bc award?) top half of the country id pick MARK ALCORN raw talent with very little backing. the times he sets r unreal at times the only problem he'd have is not knowing when 2 back off- its flat r nothing. in the midlands i'd pick PETER WILSON put in a big effort this year + i think would of been the most deserving of the bc award, he was going 2 go 2 england 4 the fiesta cup but i cant c it now. the prize money would of helped him alot but how much good will it do mchale- run him 4 1 event in a world rally car! down south i'd pick COLIN O'TOOLE another very quick man with limited cash, should b good 2 c how he gets on next year in 1600class, i'd love 2 c him + alcorn going into battle 2 c how it would go. of coarse thats my opinion + no doubt i'll b told im wrong.
 

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It would have to be Philiip Morrow as he has shown great talent all year and has shown he is one of the quickest guys in the evo challange.
 

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Anfearmor,

No-one is wrong. The mate comment was tongue in cheek :)

Ray, I seem to remember us having this exact conversation at the Lurgan Park prize giving. Your post just reminded me of that :)

Philip was paid the ultimate compliment at the ANCRO awards last Saturday night. Not only did he receive countless awards for his class position, he also won an award for the highest number of quickest stage times, the spirit of the had made an Evo VI do things that it should not be able to do which is true. He comes across as being a very nice and down to earth guy who loves his rallying. He is very dedicated but most importantly he has the raw speed and talent to go further.

As I have concentrated my rallying in the UK this year, I am not very familiar with the achievments of Colin O'Toole, Peter Wilson. This thread should be interesting.
 

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Motorsport Ireland would give you a right answer to this one!:laugh:

Man I had forgotten just how quick Aidan Bourke was, yet another man lost to the sport:roll:

I would pick Philip Morrow to back (if I was a wealthy businessman) but as rightly pointed out he has the MSA elite and some focused fundraising at local level, I know this is not enough to make him Seb Loeb.............but I do think he is getting a good shot at things (now) thing is he is worth the effort and he will do the money justice.

In Ireland I would pick Peter Wilson, he was magic in the Civic this year, but even better when he stepped into the Evo, or Rory Galligan I would put him in a world car on gravel, now that would be money well spent.

Other people I think that would deserve such help-

John Mc Glaughlin
Seamus O Grady
 

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The MSA Elite scheme does not reward drivers in a financial sense. It does however, give them the right background training.

The fundraising night in January is because his club recognise his talent. It will be interesting to see howmuch money they raise.
 

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Originally posted by WD_Raceway
Might not quite fit in the under 27 but Paul Mulcahy, if he had backing the sky would be the limit.
I dont agree, I think thats over stating the case- he is spectacular to watch and that is grand- but what results has he?

Has he ever beaten a WRC or Grp N car in a 1600 FWD?
 

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Originally posted by Tropsrotom
Originally posted by WD_Raceway
Might not quite fit in the under 27 but Paul Mulcahy, if he had backing the sky would be the limit.
I dont agree, I think thats over stating the case- he is spectacular to watch and that is grand- but what results has he?

Has he ever beaten a WRC or Grp N car in a 1600 FWD?
Beaten WRC YES
Beaten Grp N YES
1600 RWD though
 

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Originally posted by Tropsrotom
Originally posted by WD_Raceway
Might not quite fit in the under 27 but Paul Mulcahy, if he had backing the sky would be the limit.
I dont agree, I think thats over stating the case- he is spectacular to watch and that is grand- but what results has he?

Has he ever beaten a WRC or Grp N car in a 1600 FWD?
an example, from rallynews, BRIAN & LIZ PATTERSON

Carrick forestry 2004
RALLY NEWS NO.4 Kilheffernan/Service/Sunday 2.15
UNOFFICIAL LEADERBOARD AFTER STAGE 6 Slievenamon
1st (4) Brian Murphy/Joe Downey (Impreza 555) 27.23
2nd (3) Kevin Lynch/Francis Regan (Impreza WRC) 27.35
3rd (26) Pat Norris/Declan Tumilty (Impreza 555) 27.46
4th (2) Kevin O'Kane/Martin Hanna (Impreza WRC) 28.07
5th (6) Paul Barrett/Sean Ferris (Lancer N) 28.50
6th (12) Paul Mulcahy/Karl Baumawn (Starlet) 29.31
7th (45) Bob Scanlon/Peter Keohane (Lancer N) 29.59
8th (25) Brian Lawlor/Peter Kavanagh (Escort) 30.05
9th (8) Patrick Elliott/Sean Moriarty (Lancer N) 30.39
10th (19) James Cribben/Bob Kelly (Lancer N) 30.41
(20) Matt Shinnors/Adrian Deasy (Escort) 30.41
 

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Philip Morrow or Brian o mahony would be two good lads to back others would be colin o toole and peter wilson.. phillip morrow would fly the flag in the uk and brian o mahony would do the job in ireland

how would paul mulcathy get on against a super1600 such as brian o mahony or keith power :dunno:
 

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how would paul mulcathy get on against a super1600 such as brian o mahony or keith power :dunno:
Beatin in carrick single stage this year as far as i remember

not real and true (( i think ))
 

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Ah thats Carick Forest, only person Im surprised thats behind him is Brian Lawlor (he must have had a puncture)

If that was Aidan Bourke he would be in front of and Kevin O Kane and maybe closing on Norris, (who was in an ould Grp A car).

Has he ever ventured away from local rallies?
 

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Pual mulcahy was caught and passed by a gpn evo this year in carrick on suir by the way!

Philip morrow has to be the one
 

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yeah im sure he was beaten in the carrick single stage by a ss1600 puma sure wasnt keith power 4 overall in that...
 
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