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ruairi mac artain
27-05-2013, 16:47
this is something iv been thinking about this last few months now and i figured the people on this site would probably know the answer, iv allways liked the idea of the hatchback ae86 rally car (the common one) but iv allways hated how they look, on the other hand i love the coupe version (booter) and i just want to no why none seem to be rallied ? is there a weight or handling problem or is it just because there not as common ? they have the same suspension and running gear and all do they not ? so is there any reason not to convert one for rallying ?

Simon Love
28-05-2013, 10:19
A LHD one did the Sligo stages in 09
http://www.jamesburke.biz/product.asp?idProduct=1363825&StartProd=0&Numberofthumbs=489&idmanual=0&calledfrom=&idissue=

ruairi mac artain
28-05-2013, 12:47
A LHD one did the Sligo stages in 09
http://www.jamesburke.biz/product.asp?idProduct=1363825&StartProd=0&Numberofthumbs=489&idmanual=0&calledfrom=&idissue=

i wonder how it fared up against the hatchbacks ? i have a mate looking rid of a rolling shell of one and id be tempted to buy it off him for a summer project and something to keep me busy through college .. just would love a bit more info on them

ruairi mac artain
28-05-2013, 12:52
does anybody know if the suspension mounts are the same on both vehicles ?

Simon Love
28-05-2013, 15:07
i wonder how it fared up against the hatchbacks ? i have a mate looking rid of a rolling shell of one and id be tempted to buy it off him for a summer project and something to keep me busy through college .. just would love a bit more info on them
Finished 37th o/a that time in Sligo anyway http://results.shannonsportsit.ie/results.php?rally=SO09

ruairi mac artain
28-05-2013, 15:19
thanks, do you no who if that man still owns that car or is he on this site or anything ?

Simon Love
28-05-2013, 15:32
thanks, do you no who if that man still owns that car or is he on this site or anything ?
dont know to be honest but I'm sure some of the Donegal lads on here might know a bit more about him/the car

ruairi mac artain
28-05-2013, 15:49
dont know to be honest but I'm sure some of the Donegal lads on here might know a bit more about him/the car

ye maybe, i looked him up on facebook there and i think its him i mailed so hopefully he can give me a bit of info on the car maybe what suspension to run etc

Maurice Malone
28-05-2013, 19:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhNQg-_UE_s

Finnish lads are mad for them, there used to be a fella on motorsportforums.com that was living in America but knew a lot about the F Cup that they run the Corollas and stuff in, I think he worked on suspension too. Haven't seen him on there in awhile though, John Vandlandingham was his name I think, might be worth getting onto him if you can

abe1234
28-05-2013, 19:49
this is something iv been thinking about this last few months now and i figured the people on this site would probably know the answer, iv allways liked the idea of the hatchback ae86 rally car (the common one) but iv allways hated how they look, on the other hand i love the coupe version (booter) and i just want to no why none seem to be rallied ? is there a weight or handling problem or is it just because there not as common ? they have the same suspension and running gear and all do they not ? so is there any reason not to convert one for rallying ?

the square back corolla was fwd ruairi with the engine being the only thing the ae86 and square back had in common.

touch of the clutch
28-05-2013, 21:06
He's on about a boot coupe Matt!

More rigid shell without the hatch, brother in law uses one to good effect on all track events, converted him off hatches too but he only admits that with drink on board!


http://www.rallypics.org/gallery/alltrakmar09/alltrakmar09_21.jpg

prpr
29-05-2013, 04:52
The booted twin cam was never sold new here, nor in the UK, hence the hatchback being a more common rallycar base. Most booted ones you see around are Jap imports.

ruairi mac artain
29-05-2013, 09:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhNQg-_UE_s

Finnish lads are mad for them, there used to be a fella on motorsportforums.com that was living in America but knew a lot about the F Cup that they run the Corollas and stuff in, I think he worked on suspension too. Haven't seen him on there in awhile though, John Vandlandingham was his name I think, might be worth getting onto him if you can

thanks for that info il try google him or something

ruairi mac artain
29-05-2013, 10:02
the square back corolla was fwd ruairi with the engine being the only thing the ae86 and square back had in common.

im talking about the ae86 coupe not the squareback but i know the one your talking about

ruairi mac artain
29-05-2013, 10:07
He's on about a boot coupe Matt!

More rigid shell without the hatch, brother in law uses one to good effect on all track events, converted him off hatches too but he only admits that with drink on board!



http://www.rallypics.org/gallery/alltrakmar09/alltrakmar09_21.jpg

yes thanks for clearing that up, and ye thats what i was thinking, surely the handling dynamics are better and it has to weigh less no ?

and a wise man would admit it with out drink in them, there a far better looking car, would you be able to mail me his name or something so i can get in touch with him on facebook or something to maybe ask him about his car ??

ruairi mac artain
29-05-2013, 10:09
The booted twin cam was never sold new here, nor in the UK, hence the hatchback being a more common rallycar base. Most booted ones you see around are Jap imports.

ok that makes alot of sense, so it really is all just about availability and not one being better than the other ?

colm8484
01-06-2013, 01:41
thanks, do you no who if that man still owns that car or is he on this site or anything ?

Conal broke that car, he's been in Oz this few years but just back this week as far as I know.. Pedaled her hard for the power he had..

Martin Atwell
03-01-2014, 14:22
The non hatchback is a far stiffer shell.