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Noel157
25-11-2009, 11:21
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/irelandrsquos-world-bid-still-in-the-melting-pot-14573384.html

"Naylor was in Scotland at the weekend for the Rally of Scotland, final round of the Intercontinental Rally Challenge, and met with IRC officials. So do, I understand, did representatives from the Killarney-based Rally of the Lakes. The IRC has grown rapidly in popularity and importance and now has a huge following in Ireland, thanks in part to the success of Kris Meeke.

But it is also being seen as a more attractive proposition than the World championship, so much so that the organisers of the most iconic of all rallies, Monte Carlo, have refused to return to the WRC next year.

It had been left out of this year's championship and replaced by Rally Ireland under the rotational system but having then switched to the IRC, the Monaco AC snubbed the FIA by rejecting a place in the 2010 WRC, preferring to continue in the IRC which offers greater freedom to run the event according to its traditions.

Promoters ISC are desperate to have Monte Carlo back as part of their World championship re-building programme but so far the Monaco team have been unbending — which may help to explain the delay in announcing the 2011 calendar."

Noel O Sullivan Jnr
25-11-2009, 19:47
it would be nice to see them do molls gap etc!

dexter
25-11-2009, 19:54
Killarney or Donegal deserves a championship of this stature......

Mark Semple
25-11-2009, 20:19
This would be class seeing the S2000's up Moll's or over Atlantic Drive, hope it gets the go ahead

tar forest mad
25-11-2009, 21:04
it would be great see the irc in killarney or donegal but as long as its not at the expense of modified cars that are the backbone of irish rallying on this island!!

TypeR
26-11-2009, 00:10
If they can run Land rovers & a national section in Scotland then I'm sure there wouldn't be a problem here.

BMC
26-11-2009, 00:34
How many nationals could they start though?

Ben Denny
26-11-2009, 13:14
How many nationals could they start though?
way things are at the minute wouldnt need an awful lot of spaces!!!

BMC
26-11-2009, 13:22
Very true!

Eoin Sills
26-11-2009, 13:31
it would be great see the irc in killarney or donegal but as long as its not at the expense of modified cars that are the backbone of irish rallying on this island!!

would be awesome but at the same time where they put the stages would be key, imagine if they put them down cods head, the problem with spectators getting down there would be an unreal nightmare... imagine the crowd at the top of molls gap i could imagine it being like back in the 80's early 90's

this would simply be amazing :)

declanb95
26-11-2009, 16:08
well like sligo and up north off ireland got wrc rally ireland so i think it would be only fair to give irc to killarney for the 1st few years and then mybe spread it round ireland then...only what i think

Clan
26-11-2009, 16:51
Well maybe the reason MSI was checking out the IRC was because they know already we will not be part of the WRC.
Having the second best supported round of the WRC, the second best organised round of the WRC stands for nothing with the ISC.

bf1
26-11-2009, 20:30
As long as hotel prices etc aren't hiked up like we have seen elsewhere!

Pat Barry
26-11-2009, 20:37
it would be great see the irc in killarney or donegal but as long as its not at the expense of modified cars that are the backbone of irish rallying on this island!!

very true. would be some buzz to be in the same rally as the irc boys. especially on those stages

TypeR
27-11-2009, 00:33
Well maybe the reason MSI was checking out the IRC was because they know already we will not be part of the WRC.
Having the second best supported round of the WRC, the second best organised round of the WRC stands for nothing with the ISC.

Especially when you accuse the new chief of buying votes to get his new job. Am sure Jean Todd is having a good laugh........You are a bit of a bollicks but can we please have a round of the WRC :laugh:

Robbo
27-11-2009, 09:00
As long as hotel prices etc aren't hiked up like we have seen elsewhere!
I'd imagine such a thing has never occurred in Killarney before...

joemcg
27-11-2009, 09:42
I'd imagine such a thing has never occurred in Killarney before...
Booked mine early this (2009) year.
Ended up having to pay twice what i was quoted when i booked them.....

Pat Barry
27-11-2009, 10:41
I'd imagine such a thing has never occurred in Killarney before...


NO they dont hike them up.,,, there just expensive all the time:laugh:

keldsyke
30-11-2009, 09:03
As said before it would be an amazing event, just worried about the amount of extra spectators it would bring to the event and the potential problems.

magumby
30-11-2009, 13:03
would be awesome but at the same time where they put the stages would be key, imagine if they put them down cods head, the problem with spectators getting down there would be an unreal nightmare... imagine the crowd at the top of molls gap i could imagine it being like back in the 80's early 90's

this would simply be amazing :)


Theres a question. Which of those events suits spectators best?

co-driver
30-11-2009, 17:48
Well maybe the reason MSI was checking out the IRC was because they know already we will not be part of the WRC.
Having the second best supported round of the WRC, the second best organised round of the WRC stands for nothing with the ISC.

From what I hear R.I. will be part of the WRC in 2011. There aren't as many options for ISC now as there was in the past. It's not just as easy to get the funds together to run a round of the WRC or indeed the IRC. It may come down to who can afford to put a round together rather than which is the best events!

B16A2
30-11-2009, 20:52
Especially when you accuse the new chief of buying votes to get his new job. Am sure Jean Todd is having a good laugh........You are a bit of a bollicks but can we please have a round of the WRC :laugh:

well said. jean todd is going with the big wheel turning saying. :laugh::laugh:

Dougal
30-11-2009, 21:06
it would be great see the irc in killarney or donegal but as long as its not at the expense of modified cars that are the backbone of irish rallying on this island!!

there could /should be no reason why they couldnt run the nations in the same event , if WRC finland can do it then why not but then again there governing body seem to work with events ,not against them

Ruaidhri Nash
04-12-2009, 18:40
i have noticed that next years monte will be 5 days and run night stages so in saying that why can't we take the irc and run a proper circuit of ireland effort again. maybe not the marathon event but based in cork service and stages in waterford south east region and then head west with stages service in say limerick and then hit killarney?

Ian Johnston
04-12-2009, 19:26
i have noticed that next years monte will be 5 days and run night stages so in saying that why can't we take the irc and run a proper circuit of ireland effort again. maybe not the marathon event but based in cork service and stages in waterford south east region and then head west with stages service in say limerick and then hit killarney?

I sudgest you try giving your club a hand running an 1 day event, and very quicky you will appreciate why a 5 day circuit will never happen again.

1117
04-12-2009, 21:02
I sudgest you try giving your club a hand running an 1 day event, and very quicky you will appreciate why a 5 day circuit will never happen again.

Too expensive, too long for the cars-the cars would break.

in the old days there was not much to go wrong with a car and they were easy enough to fix-gearboxes and headgaskets included. Drivers used to stay up half the night too knocking back a few jars-none of this getting up at 5am and going for a 3 mile run like Kris Meeke. :laugh:

tar forest mad
04-12-2009, 21:21
i have noticed that next years monte will be 5 days and run night stages so in saying that why can't we take the irc and run a proper circuit of ireland effort again. maybe not the marathon event but based in cork service and stages in waterford south east region and then head west with stages service in say limerick and then hit killarney?

now thats a rally (the irishversion) i,d like to do and it would be a right test of man and machine! it would be expensive to do and hard on a car but everyone starts a rally hoping their car runs faultless and if you know you,ve x amount of days of continous rallying ahead you,d go through the car meticously beforehand and find the budget to do it someway or other to do a rally marathon like that. as it would be so unique in these days.

escortmk11
04-12-2009, 22:29
The Ulster rally is the place for the IRC.

civic
05-12-2009, 10:55
I see a few lads here suggest either Killarney or Donegal for the irc, what have all the rest of the international rallys done wrong not to get a mention, just because a rally does'nt have sceneic or classic stages does'nt make it stand out from all the others, all have the same high standard of organisation, i think if the irc were to come to ireland there's no reason why it can't be shared between all the international rallys, the s2000's would be as tested flyin up the roads of Gort as they would be on stages in the cork/kerry area.



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Clan
05-12-2009, 12:41
I see a few lads here suggest either Killarney or Donegal for the irc, what have all the rest of the international rallys done wrong not to get a mention, just because a rally does'nt have sceneic or classic stages does'nt make it stand out from all the others, all have the same high standard of organisation, i think if the irc were to come to ireland there's no reason why it can't be shared between all the international rallys, the s2000's would be as tested flyin up the roads of Gort as they would be on stages in the cork/kerry area.

Exactly Gavin, Killarney or Donegal are no better then anywhere else, they happen to be run in Summer months one on a bank holiday weekend so the weather is warmer if not drier. But the COI,Ulster, Cork and Galway are just as good if not even better events in som case's. Move the calender around a little and you would see some changes in attitudes.

Wicked T
05-12-2009, 12:46
The Ulster rally is the place for the IRC.

Totally agree, ideal for it

Ruaidhri Nash
05-12-2009, 16:53
I sudgest you try giving your club a hand running an 1 day event, and very quicky you will appreciate why a 5 day circuit will never happen again.

I do Ian that's why if it was to happen it would be no different to rally ireland with individual clubs running each stage.

Ruaidhri Nash
06-12-2009, 17:16
oh yeah just in case anyone thinks i have totally lost the run of my self i dnt mean the old school circuit with 170 stages and a session every night i mean like thursday night have 3 or 4 night stages then loops of like 3X2 each day after then maybe 6 or 7 in killarney on the last day the 2008 saturday loop would be perfect for it with remote refueling.

escortmk11
06-12-2009, 18:25
The Ulster will get it in 2011 along with the British championship. They are the only club that could run it properly. In Donegal its who you are that decides the rules, same in Killarney. The Ulster dont bend the rules for anyone so its a level playing field for all.

johnny21
07-12-2009, 00:46
In Donegal its who you are that decides the rules, same in Killarney. The Ulster dont bend the rules for anyone so its a level playing field for all.
what do ya mean by that.....??

Anthony Smith
07-12-2009, 13:47
mmm cant figure that out either:confused::D

magumby
07-12-2009, 17:33
The Ulster will get it in 2011 along with the British championship. They are the only club that could run it properly. In Donegal its who you are that decides the rules, same in Killarney. The Ulster dont bend the rules for anyone so its a level playing field for all.


Er, can we take it from your post that the Ulster is already looking for it and posts like yours are trying to run down better events in case they might put in for it too?

Ulster is a superbly run rally. But nobody goes to see it. Would we really wish that for the IRC. How many were at the start and finish this year?

And is a rally really run as a demonstration about how you can rigidly apply a rule book or to have rally cars competing over special stages?

At a guess I'd say your comments about Killarney and Donegal are wide of the mark by a long chalk but hey, its a free world. No doubt you have loads of evidence to back up such big claims or you wouldn't be making them would you?

Oh go on, tell tell!

And tell us how the Ulster Rally is already looking for the IRC willya? Stop being all coy about it!

euw938v
07-12-2009, 18:03
Could we all get back to the point. To have a round of the IRC in any corner of this island would be an absolute honour. We are lucky to have hosted a round of the WRC twice.

For a country of our size especially the size of our car market I would be eleated to have two major rally championship visting

They could host it in Aran Island :laugh: it wouldnt bother me once we get the opportuninty to stage an event

Long way from that at the minute no point bickering where to host it we should all get behind it

pauricmcg555
08-12-2009, 10:46
I would agree with that....but it would b nice to stage a round of the IRC in an area of Ireland such as Donegal, Killarney or Cork, where there is the most interest and where the most famous stages in Ireland are located...but no doubt if it did come it wouldn't matter where it was as long as it was here

escortmk11
08-12-2009, 10:57
In Donegal did some top car not get caught cheating and the organisers did nothing ? The Ulster is the best run rally in this country..FACT.

harp
08-12-2009, 11:34
In Donegal did some top car not get caught cheating and the organisers did nothing ? The Ulster is the best run rally in this country..FACT.
Wise up! U probley haveint been to any other rallys :laugh:

pauricmcg555
08-12-2009, 12:41
If the Ulster was chosen i tink it would be a mistake...it is not the best representation of rallyin in this country and the IRC is more about that than the WRC...look at the Monte goin bac to a 5 day event

Eoin Sills
08-12-2009, 14:14
If the Ulster was chosen i tink it would be a mistake...it is not the best representation of rallyin in this country and the IRC is more about that than the WRC...look at the Monte goin bac to a 5 day event
5 days 6 stages each day 3 run twice, rite around Ireland that way you'd get the best of everywhere..
i agree wth euw938v any part of Ireland would be great but there are pleanty of good stages away from the so called better areas of Irish rallying

pauricmcg555
08-12-2009, 19:56
That wud b some rally if ever it happened...

anto
27-12-2009, 17:32
I know teh COI got it but why cant kilalrney go for it aswell.. All they need to do is run it to IRC standerd. Live stage times end of day TV reports Media coverage ( I think the COI has got a few more times in the papers allready)

I heard its going to cost 300K to run the COI this year.. ( dont quote me on that) But alot of stuff has to be done to be a IRC round... If killarney can afford to do it get some one who can speck french on the phone to eurosport...

Mick O Riordan
27-12-2009, 18:53
I know teh COI got it but why cant kilalrney go for it aswell.. All they need to do is run it to IRC standerd. Live stage times end of day TV reports Media coverage ( I think the COI has got a few more times in the papers allready)

I heard its going to cost 300K to run the COI this year.. ( dont quote me on that) But alot of stuff has to be done to be a IRC round... If killarney can afford to do it get some one who can speck french on the phone to eurosport...
Expect IRC observers in Killarney in 2010

Podge Newe
27-12-2009, 19:04
In Donegal did some top car not get caught cheating and the organisers did nothing ? The Ulster is the best run rally in this country..FACT.

There has been plenty of cheating in Ulster in the past too

Andy Gilmore
27-12-2009, 21:15
And tell us how the Ulster Rally is already looking for the IRC willya? Stop being all coy about it!


You're some boy to be calling others coy!

why dont you stop being coy & put up your name, as requested by numerous forum members?

asea
27-12-2009, 22:58
In Donegal did some top car not get caught cheating and the organisers did nothing ? The Ulster is the best run rally in this country..FACT.
who are the organiser's of the ulster rally

D M N
28-12-2009, 18:53
micheal johnson and co

kcaj
29-12-2009, 00:04
Wise up! U probley haveint been to any other rallys :laugh:
agree with you.that man is ilenformed to say ulster is the best is way of the mark.dont get me wrong it is a very well run and extreamly hard to sugest its toally the best would be slightly of the mark,and havin said that it is on a par with donegal or kilarney,minis the buss.

luckycharms
29-03-2010, 02:35
From an accommodation point of view, only Dublin has more hotel and b&b beds. Thats got to be a massive plus for a big event.

If anyones been to an IRC/WRC event, some of the stages are impossible to get in/out of i dont really see the problem with using a few with restricted access.