View Full Version : MSA/Press Accreditation reqd for media sign on.


koneill
01-03-2006, 17:21
Due to the large numbers of chancers signing on at NI Championship events as media, It is now reqd to have proper media accreditation as proof .,before being allowed to sign on as media or press...Apparently this can be got from the MSA ?
Kieran.

anto
01-03-2006, 17:31
ya go to motorsport irelands website there is a form to fill out and include a letter from an editor of the paper to work for or send 2 pieces that you have got in the papers

peespeed
01-03-2006, 18:50
Originally posted by anto
ya go to motorsport irelands website there is a form to fill out and include a letter from an editor of the paper to work for or send 2 pieces that you have got in the papers

Anto MI want the 2 printed pieces plus the letter this year....or maybe its just from me :dunno:

Graham Curry
01-03-2006, 19:05
I sent 2 press cuttings, letter from the editor of the mag i do stuff for and the app form filled and signed and got it ok

anto
01-03-2006, 19:18
Originally posted by peespeed
Originally posted by anto
ya go to motorsport irelands website there is a form to fill out and include a letter from an editor of the paper to work for or send 2 pieces that you have got in the papers

Anto MI want the 2 printed pieces plus the letter this year....or maybe its just from me :dunno:

o right i applyed last year havent been arsed to get it this year too busy

ab
01-03-2006, 22:18
Originally posted by koneill
Due to the large numbers of chancers signing on at NI Championship events as media, It is now reqd to have proper media accreditation as proof .,before being allowed to sign on as media or press...Apparently this can be got from the MSA ?
Kieran.

go to
http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_forms/20056MediaApplication.pdf
and as far as i know it applies to all events, not just N.I. Championship events

jonnyc
01-03-2006, 22:34
anyone know how video guys can get Media Accreditation? Its not as if I can take cuttings out of a paper??

cheers Jonny

Rory O Connor
01-03-2006, 22:46
And how are you supposed to get things into print if you cant get the the bleedin acreditation. I have had seveal articles on house/property issues printed in the property section of the Belfast Telegraph last year and contributed to several articles in the Corri Self Build magazine-will that count?:P

[Edited on 1-3-2006 by rubywax]

peespeed
01-03-2006, 22:59
I had photos in 2 motorsport papers last year and sent requests to both of them for a letter this year and got no reply. Last year when I applied to MI I was refused a pass"because you sell your photos" but am working on another option at the moment to try and get that elusive media card

jonnyc
01-03-2006, 23:03
peespeed, i reckon the majority of guys who have the passes sell photos so there must be some way for you to get it!

peespeed
01-03-2006, 23:17
Thats what I said to the "lady" on the phone but she just didnt want me to give me the pass

anto
01-03-2006, 23:57
Originally posted by jonnyc
anyone know how video guys can get Media Accreditation? Its not as if I can take cuttings out of a paper??

cheers Jonny

get it on tv RPM, on the limit sports SVS ect thats the only way

Rory O Connor
02-03-2006, 00:43
There must be someone who can forge one-I mean you can get fake euros, fake driving licences, fake passports, fake ferraris even-fake anything you want-for fakes sake:roll:

peespeed
02-03-2006, 13:26
have a copy of a Spanish journalists union card if ya want one ruby :D

rallyretro
02-03-2006, 14:28
I wouldn't bother trying to forge the card tbh, they are numbered and everytime you sign on you have to declare your number. Now, it wouldn't look smart with two people signing under the one number!

touch of the clutch
02-03-2006, 14:38
no harm, no fowl but its about time... i marshalled earlier in the year and a few members of this forum... and others have been seen standing in totally stupid spots with cameras etc. and would not listen to marshalls telling them to move... you are not above the law.. you must respect the sport before someone gets killed... there are VERY few ppl who take fotos that are professionals.. ie do it for a living and therefor have the respect expected from a professional. most people are just hobbie photographers, who although good, should not be out of spectator areas taking shots, or be signed on... it just brings trouble:mad:

[Edited on 2-3-2006 by touch of the clutch]

Kenny Wilson
02-03-2006, 15:38
couldn't agree more clutch

I have been at corners where ye pick a good spot before the cars come, only for the "media" to descend, dressed in matching yellow (or whatever color the bib is that day) and totally block your viewing.

At one corner on Donegal last year, I counted no less that 23 people with press bibs on - ridiculous, and that was omitting the 7 rpm guys sitting on the wall.

I understand the need for the media, but I suspect that only there are only about 12 full time "professional" rally photographers. crspics, rd.com, john o'neill, eymard brennan, ngmotorsport, graham service, martin mcorriston, big man hunter, john bailey, martin walsh, joe lane, gee. Full time in the sense that they cover rallies all over, not just in their back yard.

Leave these guys to get on with it. The rest of ye, peespeed, have got a £300 camera and free lens from jessops for Christmas, and all of a sudden ye are professionals, faking passes, and the rest. What happens if ye are hit by a car - have ye your own working insurance like the afore mentioned? I doubt it.

Basically, f eck off, so that speccies have a chance to see the corner.

KUMHO
02-03-2006, 16:24
touch clutch when i marshall i let the media lads and ladies do what they please.

If they are signed on it is not the marshalls responsibility is it?

regards
eddie

[Edited on 2-3-2006 by KUMHO]

Ray L
02-03-2006, 17:02
Kuhmo you are correct. If media are signed on they are responsible for themselves but i would say if i was totally against where they were standing! Most are sesible but there are a few camera men who take far too many risks!

Steve
02-03-2006, 17:07
yep, i cant see the point in taking risks, hardly worth it! :cool: does it have to be a motorsport paper gee or if you take photos for ordinary newspapers does that still count? :dunno:

KUMHO
02-03-2006, 17:16
Originally posted by Ray L
Kuhmo you are correct. If media are signed on they are responsible for themselves but i would say if i was totally against where they were standing! Most are sesible but there are a few camera men who take far too many risks!


Thank you ray for putting the record straight.

Rrgds
Eddie

Steve
02-03-2006, 17:30
Originally posted by Steve
yep, i cant see the point in taking risks, hardly worth it! :cool: does it have to be a motorsport paper gee or if you take photos for ordinary newspapers does that still count? :dunno:

cheers gee :cool:

rossgamble1987
02-03-2006, 18:15
Originally posted by Kenny Wilson
couldn't agree more clutch

I have been at corners where ye pick a good spot before the cars come, only for the "media" to descend, dressed in matching yellow (or whatever color the bib is that day) and totally block your viewing.

At one corner on Donegal last year, I counted no less that 23 people with press bibs on - ridiculous, and that was omitting the 7 rpm guys sitting on the wall.

I understand the need for the media, but I suspect that only there are only about 12 full time "professional" rally photographers. crspics, rd.com, john o'neill, eymard brennan, ngmotorsport, graham service, martin mcorriston, big man hunter, john bailey, martin walsh, joe lane, gee. Full time in the sense that they cover rallies all over, not just in their back yard.

Leave these guys to get on with it. The rest of ye, peespeed, have got a £300 camera and free lens from jessops for Christmas, and all of a sudden ye are professionals, faking passes, and the rest. What happens if ye are hit by a car - have ye your own working insurance like the afore mentioned? I doubt it.

Basically, f eck off, so that speccies have a chance to see the corner.


What about the up and commin Stars of photography JSAMEDIA www.jsa-media.co.uk you surley can not forget of them, They provide us with a free sample every rally they attend that brings a 3-4 minute of joy into my day;);)

touch of the clutch
03-03-2006, 10:41
at the end of the day, either marshall or press, signed on is only a technicality. the clubs are still resposible. and even if marshalls are not responsible, i do not want a good rally car ruined with ppl jammed in the rad. its not die hard here. its for the good of the sport, insurance is high enough! i dont want to see people gettin killed for their own stupidity. marshalls are responsible for all around them. how good is your depth perception through a camera lense... not very. stop tryin to be bigger than amatures and act in a manner thats good for our sport

William Neill
03-03-2006, 22:36
at the moment i am still in school and cant wait to get out of it.
i hope to go on as a photographer and have not done so bad for my age this last year

peespeed
04-03-2006, 00:17
Originally posted by Kenny Wilson
The rest of ye, peespeed, have got a £300 camera and free lens from jessops for Christmas, and all of a sudden ye are professionals, faking passes, and the rest.
Basically, f eck off, so that speccies have a chance to see the corner.

Kenny do some research before you go making statements like that.

At present I have over €2,500 worth of camera gear and never got a free lens from anyone, I dont believe in faking passes or falsifying documents to get into shows like some people, go check the photo albums on my site, I dont think you'll find that Lurgan Park, Sligo or Cork are in my back yard.
What you are forgetting is who supplys photos to the likes of Motor News and Pacenotes when the so called professionals dont attend events. I can tell you its nice to get a call from big J or one of the editors of MN when they are stuck for pics.

Ray L
04-03-2006, 19:35
Just to say that I was wrong in my post about press being liable for themselves apparantly the marshals are responsible for where they are allowed as i was corrected today by an older and wiser person!

bt52b
04-03-2006, 21:10
Originally posted by Ray L
Just to say that I was wrong in my post about press being liable for themselves apparantly the marshals are responsible for where they are allowed as i was corrected today by an older and wiser person!

Think the press need one of those special MI training courses:-)

Gabriel